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Tuesday 21 August 2018

Dunphy 'surprised' as Waters quits interview after 'bollocks' outburst

Eamon Dunphy
Eamon Dunphy

Sports pundit and broadcaster Eamon Dunphy said he was "surprised" when journalist and No voter John Waters stormed out of a podcast recording about the abortion referendum.

Waters took part in Dunphy's The Stand podcast and got angry when Dunphy asked him about the definition of where life begins.

Unpleasant

After several minutes of argument, Waters stormed out, telling Dunphy: "You told me this would be a fair interview. It is not a fair interview. You're a bollocks. You're a f**king bollocks, you can f**k off."

Dunphy said that the conversation was "unpleasant".

"It was an unpleasant experience, but it happens. It's a very emotive topic for people at the moment," he said.

"I was surprised at what happened of course.

"It was unexpected, but I put it up so people could judge themselves if I was in the wrong or not."

No voter John Waters
No voter John Waters

Tension appeared between the two during the podcast when Waters said he believes life begins at conception.

Dunphy put it to him that in this definition, the morning-after pill could be seen as abortion.

Waters replied: "This is typical of the kind of media attempt to turn this into something else, to talk about hard cases, to make fudgy kind of philosophical arguments, which will delay and frustrate and confuse the people about something that is absolutely so clear, so clear.

"We are talking about whether or not we want to walk into a polling booth, pick up a pencil, put on a black cap and condemn hundreds of thousands of children to death to the rest of your life every day, every day, every day. That's the question."

Almost 15 minutes into the discussion, Waters told Dunphy: "We have 40 minutes to do an interview about this so can we talk about the issue or else I am going home. I am fed up of this."

Dunphy produced two podcasts for The Stand about the May 25 referendum, featuring Waters on the No side and journalist Una Mullally speaking for the Yes side.

Undecided

At the end of the podcast with Waters, Dunphy described himself as a No voter but later insisted he was undecided.

When asked if the podcasts had changed or altered his views on abortion, Dunphy said: "Not really. I am still undecided.

"I can see the valid arguments on both sides. I think a lot of people feel the same way.

"I haven't talked to John Waters, no.

"It's not on my immediate list of things to do, and I don't think I'm on his either."

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